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<!--quoteo(post=1190:date=Dec 4 2008, 07:20 AM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Dec 4 2008, 07:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=1179:date=Dec 4 2008, 08:06 AM:name=Andy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy @ Dec 4 2008, 08:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=1161:date=Dec 3 2008, 11:40 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 3 2008, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->To update that Greene rumor, he's a Cardinal(it sounds like).
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->In a continuing attempt to reduce payroll, the Padres were closing in on trading their starting shortstop, Khalil Greene to the Cardinals. Greene is due $6.5 million next year in the final season of his contract.
The expectation is that Greene will be moved even before the Winter Meetings start in Las Vegas on Monday. The Cardinals are said to be giving up two relief prospects to obtain Greene, sources tell The Post.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Awesome. Greene is absolutely horrible. I welcome him to the Cardinals.
Granted, if the Padres are getting bullpen guys from the Cards, they aren't getting much in return. The Cardinals bullpen was horrible last year. If they had any prospects worth a damn, they would have been on the MLB roster.
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I'm sure you're right. My guess is the Pads would almost literally take nothing in return if the other team took all of Greene's salary.
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Let this be a lesson to you, boys...
Aryan-looking Jewish Muslims cannot play shortstop.
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<!--quoteo(post=1236:date=Dec 4 2008, 10:33 AM:name=Rappster)-->QUOTE (Rappster @ Dec 4 2008, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=1190:date=Dec 4 2008, 07:20 AM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Dec 4 2008, 07:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=1179:date=Dec 4 2008, 08:06 AM:name=Andy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy @ Dec 4 2008, 08:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=1161:date=Dec 3 2008, 11:40 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 3 2008, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->To update that Greene rumor, he's a Cardinal(it sounds like).
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->In a continuing attempt to reduce payroll, the Padres were closing in on trading their starting shortstop, Khalil Greene to the Cardinals. Greene is due $6.5 million next year in the final season of his contract.
The expectation is that Greene will be moved even before the Winter Meetings start in Las Vegas on Monday. The Cardinals are said to be giving up two relief prospects to obtain Greene, sources tell The Post.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Awesome. Greene is absolutely horrible. I welcome him to the Cardinals.
Granted, if the Padres are getting bullpen guys from the Cards, they aren't getting much in return. The Cardinals bullpen was horrible last year. If they had any prospects worth a damn, they would have been on the MLB roster.
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I'm sure you're right. My guess is the Pads would almost literally take nothing in return if the other team took all of Greene's salary.
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Let this be a lesson to you, boys...
Aryan-looking Jewish Muslims cannot play shortstop.
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How does it feel to have your dreams crushed?
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<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->According to the Newark Star Ledger, the Tigers have acquired Jack Wilson from the Pirates.
The newspaper reports that "it's unclear what the Pirates get in return," but given Wilson's $7.25 million salary and .272/.312/.348 hitting line last season he's unlikely to fetch much. Wilson will replace Edgar Renteria as the Tigers' shortstop after Detroit declined his $12 million option for 2009.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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And I should have known better than to post something that cited the Newark Star-Ledger as a source:
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->The Tigers and Jack Wilson's agent are both denying a report that the shortstop has been traded.
The Newark Star-Ledger reported that a deal sending Wilson to Detroit was done. "It is not accurate," Dombrowski said. "I can 100 percent tell you that." One MLB official told MLB.com that the two sides are talking, but that a deal is not yet close.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Julio's base pay is $950,000
By Tom Haudricourt of the Journal Sentinel
Dec. 4, 2008 4:45 p.m.
The base pay for the 2009 contract for just-signed reliever Jorge Julio is $950,000, so as expected, the Brewers are not put themselves in financial jeopardy by taking a shot on the hard-throwing right-hander.
Julio can earn another $950,000 in incentives, including $600,000 based on appearances and another $350,000 based on games finished.
I haven't talked to Doug Melvin yet but as soon as I do I'll post some quotes from him about this signing.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Julio took the closer's role away from Jose Ascanio in the last couple weeks in Venezuela.
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<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->the Brewers are not put themselves in financial jeopardy<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The Journal Sentinel needs to hire an editor.
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[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] Wow. That's bad.
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<!--quoteo(post=1225:date=Dec 4 2008, 10:40 AM:name=ColoradoCub)-->QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ Dec 4 2008, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->The San Francisco Chronicle reports that Edgar Renteria and the Giants have agreed to terms on a two-year contract that could be finalized as soon as Thursday.
According to the newspaper, Renteria underwent a physical Wednesday. No word yet on the contract details, but last month Renteria was said to be on the verge of signing a two-year, $18 million deal with San Francisco.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->According to the New York Daily News, the Giants are "contemplating" making an offer to CC Sabathia in excess of $100 million.
There's no indication that the Giants will approach the Yankees' reported $140 million proposal, but Sabathia is from California and the New York Post reportedly previously that his wife would like him to pitch in San Francisco.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->The Giants haven’t made an offer to CC Sabathia or Mark Teixeira, and without getting into specifics on either player, Sabean downplayed the Giants’ participation.
“It’s a fluid situation but it’s not proactive,” said Sabean, when asked in general about committing to a $100 million-plus free agent. “We’re not out there swimming with the sharks. There are too many teams with more seemingly to offer financially than where we’re at right now.”<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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I had a fluid situation on the pot today. It wasn't good.
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Kurkjian's on Baseball Tonight saying how the Dbacks are going to lose Hudson, Dunn, Lyon, Big Unit, and Cruz at least... and they don't have the money to sign anybody.
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From MLBTrade Rumors
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->According to MLB.com's Jenifer Langosch, the White Sox signed former Pirates first-round pick John Van Benschoten to a minor league deal. JvB posted a 3.92 ERA in 80.1 Triple A innings this year, with less-than-exciting peripheral stats. His Major League trials have not gone well.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->St. Louis Cardinals starter Chris Carpenter’s troublesome nerve in his right shoulder has shown enough growth and improvement that the club is comfortable with him starting his throwing program in mid- to late January, Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak said. The GM added that the schedule would make Carpenter available for a normal spring training.
“It was a very positive report,” Mozeliak said. “The nerve is healing, healing at the normal rate. He has regained his shoulder strength almost to the level of what he had before he had this issue.”<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->The news does somewhat alter the Cardinals’ shopping list as they head to Las Vegas next week for the winter meetings, but not as much as the acquisition of shortstop Khalil Greene has. Mozeliak said the Cardinals will follow “the old axiom, you can never have enough pitching,” and pursue possibly another starter and some additional help for the restructured bullpen. That could include an arm for the ninth inning.
Said Mozeliak: They will “focus on pitching.”
Finding a second baseman is a lower priority, with Adam Kennedy possibly staying put despite his request for a trade.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->The A's are out of the mix for free agent Rafael Furcal after he rejected the team's four-year proposal.
Furcal hasn't ruled out joining the A's, but he wasn't willing to take a paycut to do it. While the A's were willing to give him the four-year deal he desired, the proposal didn't top $10 million per season. With the Giants also perhaps out of the mix, Furcal is left without an obvious suitor at the moment. He'll get his money, but he might have to settle for three years. As for the A's, they'll begin looking elsewhere for upgrades. They need at least one starter -- Randy Johnson is a possibility -- and they could always add another big bat, perhaps even Adam Dunn. Dec. 6 - 1:05 am et<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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From ESPN
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->NEW YORK -- The Detroit Tigers made the first move of the winter meetings Monday by trading for catcher Gerald Laird from the Texas Rangers in exchange for two minor league pitchers.
Detroit sent right-handed pitchers Guillermo Moscoso and Carlos Melo to Texas for Laird, who batted .276 in 344 at-bats last season with 24 doubles, six homers and 41 RBIs.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Rather than attempt to hijack the potential Padres-Cubs deal by making available top prospect Colby Rasmus, Mozeliak plans to devote much of the next 48 hours to chatting up
agents.
"I'd say there's been a fairly significant change in the last two days," Mozeliak said. "Some of the things we thought might be available through trade may be more attainable in free agency."
The Cubs have emerged as heavy favorites to acquire the 2007 NL Cy Young Award winner, offering as many as five players, including top prospect Josh Vitters, a Class A third baseman.
The Cardinals, meanwhile, may explore shorter commitments with free agent starters such as Oliver Perez, Andy Pettitte, Randy Wolf and Brad Penny.
"There could be some opportunities that we didn't envision four weeks ago," Mozeliak said without specifying their identities. "There are certainly some avenues we hope to explore."
The Cardinals are not expected to pursue the free agent pool's bigger fish: CC Sabathia, Ben Sheets, A.J. Burnett and Derek Lowe. The Cardinals have committed a total of $85.1 million to Chris Carpenter, Kyle Lohse and Adam Wainwright through 2011.
"Our preference is to stay shorter than longer," Mozeliak said.
Economic uncertainties are bringing the free agent market back to the Cardinals, who retain about $15 million to $17 million in payroll flexibility for next season.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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But from Rosenthal.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->LAS VEGAS - A new team has emerged as a serious bidder for free-agent right-hander A.J. Burnett, according to major-league sources. That team is believed to be the St. Louis Cardinals, who had interest in Burnett the last time he was a free agent, in 2005.
After acquiring shortstop Khalil Greene from the Padres, Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, "We're going to focus on pitching." The Cardinals also are looking for a closer on a short-term deal, but Burnett fits their desire for a starter with upside — someone similar to righty Kyle Lohse, 30, whom the team recently re-signed for $41 million over four years.
Burnett, who turns 32 on Jan. 3, recently received an offer from the Braves, believed to be $60 million over four years with a vesting option for a fifth year. He is seeking a five-year, fully guaranteed deal, and the Yankees, Red Sox and Orioles are among the other teams that have shown interest in signing him.
Whether the Cardinals are willing to commit to Burnett at such a level is not clear. The team earlier this week received an encouraging report on righty Chris Carpenter, who is recovering from a nerve condition in his right shoulder. The Cardinals' other starters are Lohse, Adam Wainwright and Todd Wellemeyer. The addition of Burnett and return of Carpenter would give them one of the best rotations in the National League.
Burnett, a native of Arkansas, now lives in Monkton, Md. His preference is to play for a city that either borders on the Mississippi River or is east of it, and St. Louis would qualify. Something else that would work in the Cardinals' favor: Burnett hit it off with manager Tony La Russa and pitching coach Dave Duncan before signing with the Blue Jays in 2005.
Wherever Burnett goes, he isn't likely to choose his next team at the winter meetings. He likely will wait on free-agent left-hander CC Sabathia, knowing that if the Yankees lose Sabathia, their urgency (desperation?) will only increase. Sabathia, too, is unlikely to make a decision at the meetings.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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