Zambrano

[BT]

<!--quoteo(post=108356:date=Jul 28 2010, 08:16 AM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 28 2010, 08:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->It wasn't a short sighted decision. I think my limit of attempts to explain this to you is seven, but Hendry specifically said the move was based on his last 50 starts, not his last 4.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, as long as Hendry said that the move was based on his last 50 starts, it absolutely proves that the move wasn't short sighted. Thanks for finally clearing that up. I guess it took seven times for me to get it. You can't look at Silva and Gorz's last 50 starts -- only Zambrano's. The only starts that counted for Silva and Gorz was their first two of the 2010 season. Got it. Not short sighted. I finally get it, BT. You're a champ.

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->As a whole, there isn't one pitcher in the rotation who has been consistently bad<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wells was pretty consistently bad for a pretty long stretch. Good thing for him he had a long track record of success and was able to pitch through his struggles.

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Zambrano was not very good as a starter this year<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So, on April 21, we should make decisions only based on the beginning of the season up to that point. Completely ignore the rest of their career. If A-Rod is hitting .200 and Ramiro Pena is hitting .300 on April 21, you make A-Rod a pinch hitter and you put Pena at 3B. This is all starting to make sense to me!

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Zambrano was, at best, less than impressive last year<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If by "less than impressive," you mean "not an All-Star," then you've got me there. In this context, "less than impressive" means "better than Silva and Gorz's career averages, and a whole shitload better than their previous two seasons" to me.

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Zambrano wasn't very good as a reliever this year
Zambrano wasn't very good coming back as a starter this year.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So...was the decision based on the above?

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->And according to you, it was borderline criminal negligence to take Zambrano out of the rotation.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm pretty sure I said the move was idiotic and short-sighted. I don't remember calling for Lou's arrest.
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I'm done with this Butch. You have reached KB levels of repeatedly ignoring what I say. This is how our argument goes.

Butch: "they shouldn't have taken him out. They should look at his history".
Me: "They did look at his history"
Butch: "If they are looking at his history, why don't they look at everyone's history".
Me: "Because they didn't need to look at everyone's history, because their present was better than Zambrano's".
Butch: "They shouldn't take Zambrano out because of his present, they should look at his history".
Me: "They did look at his history".
Butch: "Why don't they look at everyone's history?"
Me: "Because they didn't need to look at everyone's history, because their present was better than Zambrano's"
Butch: "They shouldn't take Zambrano out because of his present. They should look at his history".

and so on.