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HOF ballot - dk123 - 12-02-2008
<!--quoteo(post=698:date=Dec 2 2008, 11:10 AM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Dec 2 2008, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Mattingly isn't a HOFer. He was a great hitter for about 5-6 seasons, but not much else.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
CP was talking about the mustache hall of fame.
HOF ballot - johnr42 - 12-02-2008
Rickey and Rice will probably get in this year. Blyleven also probably deserves it, but won't get in.
HOF ballot - rok - 12-02-2008
<!--quoteo(post=834:date=Dec 2 2008, 03:51 PM:name=dk123)-->QUOTE (dk123 @ Dec 2 2008, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=698:date=Dec 2 2008, 11:10 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Dec 2 2008, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Mattingly isn't a HOFer. He was a great hitter for about 5-6 seasons, but not much else.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
CP was talking about the mustache hall of fame.
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The stache gets its own wing, but Donny Baseball stays out.
HOF ballot - Auz - 12-02-2008
Only lock really is Henderson. Very weak this years ballot. Maybe Mattingly for his guest spot on the Simpsons.
HOF ballot - wcplummer - 12-02-2008
Not sure why I even care but I looked up Tim Raines compared to a couple of others. IMO Raines is better than DM and at least as good as Brock.
Raines
.810 career ops
.728 league avg. ops
2605 hits
1500 runs
980 rbi
808 sb
146 cs
Lou Brock
.753 career ops
.720 league avg ops
3023 hits
1610 runs
900 rbi
938 sb
307 cs
Mattingly
.829 ops
.729 league avg.
2153 hits
1007 runs
1009 rbi
14 sb
9 cs
HOF ballot - ruby23 - 12-02-2008
How did Mattingly only attempt 25 SBs for his entire career?
HOF ballot - veryzer - 12-02-2008
<!--quoteo(post=867:date=Dec 2 2008, 04:58 PM:name=wcplummer)-->QUOTE (wcplummer @ Dec 2 2008, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Not sure why I even care but I looked up Tim Raines compared to a couple of others. IMO Raines is better than DM and at least as good as Brock.
Raines
.810 career ops
.728 league avg. ops
2605 hits
1500 runs
980 rbi
808 sb
146 cs
Lou Brock
.753 career ops
.720 league avg ops
3023 hits
1610 runs
900 rbi
938 sb
307 cs
Mattingly
.829 ops
.729 league avg.
2153 hits
1007 runs
1009 rbi
14 sb
9 cs<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
before mattingly got hurt, he was infinitely better than raines. not even iin the same ballpark. raines isn't even in the same ballpark as brock either, though i do think brock was a tad overrated. way better than raines though. raines had longevity and a handful of decent years.
HOF ballot - Ace - 12-02-2008
<!--quoteo(post=745:date=Dec 2 2008, 01:51 PM:name=Quinn)-->QUOTE (Quinn @ Dec 2 2008, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I think it will be interesting what they do with McGwire.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Agreed. Inflated stats, probably. But man, I didn't realize how good his numbers were.
HOF ballot - Ace - 12-02-2008
<!--quoteo(post=912:date=Dec 2 2008, 07:53 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Dec 2 2008, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=867:date=Dec 2 2008, 04:58 PM:name=wcplummer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (wcplummer @ Dec 2 2008, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Not sure why I even care but I looked up Tim Raines compared to a couple of others. IMO Raines is better than DM and at least as good as Brock.
Raines
.810 career ops
.728 league avg. ops
2605 hits
1500 runs
980 rbi
808 sb
146 cs
Lou Brock
.753 career ops
.720 league avg ops
3023 hits
1610 runs
900 rbi
938 sb
307 cs
Mattingly
.829 ops
.729 league avg.
2153 hits
1007 runs
1009 rbi
14 sb
9 cs<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
before mattingly got hurt, he was infinitely better than raines. not even iin the same ballpark. raines isn't even in the same ballpark as brock either, though i do think brock was a tad overrated. way better than raines though. raines had longevity and a handful of decent years.
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Lou Brock is the single most overrated player in the history of baseball.
HOF ballot - chemikel - 12-02-2008
McGwire got votes from only 23.6% of the voters last time around (http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/hofers/voting_year.jsp?year=2008), not a strong indicator that he'll ever get in.''
...and Dunston got a vote last year.
HOF ballot - Runnys - 12-03-2008
<!--quoteo(post=915:date=Dec 2 2008, 06:57 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Dec 2 2008, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=912:date=Dec 2 2008, 07:53 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Dec 2 2008, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=867:date=Dec 2 2008, 04:58 PM:name=wcplummer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (wcplummer @ Dec 2 2008, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Not sure why I even care but I looked up Tim Raines compared to a couple of others. IMO Raines is better than DM and at least as good as Brock.
Raines
.810 career ops
.728 league avg. ops
2605 hits
1500 runs
980 rbi
808 sb
146 cs
Lou Brock
.753 career ops
.720 league avg ops
3023 hits
1610 runs
900 rbi
938 sb
307 cs
Mattingly
.829 ops
.729 league avg.
2153 hits
1007 runs
1009 rbi
14 sb
9 cs<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
before mattingly got hurt, he was infinitely better than raines. not even iin the same ballpark. raines isn't even in the same ballpark as brock either, though i do think brock was a tad overrated. way better than raines though. raines had longevity and a handful of decent years.
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Lou Brock is the single most overrated player in the history of baseball.
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I disagree Ace...I think Ozzie Smith is the most overrated player in baseball history.
HOF ballot - Ace - 12-03-2008
<!--quoteo(post=1135:date=Dec 3 2008, 09:43 PM:name=Runnys)-->QUOTE (Runnys @ Dec 3 2008, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=915:date=Dec 2 2008, 06:57 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Dec 2 2008, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=912:date=Dec 2 2008, 07:53 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Dec 2 2008, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=867:date=Dec 2 2008, 04:58 PM:name=wcplummer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (wcplummer @ Dec 2 2008, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Not sure why I even care but I looked up Tim Raines compared to a couple of others. IMO Raines is better than DM and at least as good as Brock.
Raines
.810 career ops
.728 league avg. ops
2605 hits
1500 runs
980 rbi
808 sb
146 cs
Lou Brock
.753 career ops
.720 league avg ops
3023 hits
1610 runs
900 rbi
938 sb
307 cs
Mattingly
.829 ops
.729 league avg.
2153 hits
1007 runs
1009 rbi
14 sb
9 cs<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
before mattingly got hurt, he was infinitely better than raines. not even iin the same ballpark. raines isn't even in the same ballpark as brock either, though i do think brock was a tad overrated. way better than raines though. raines had longevity and a handful of decent years.
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Lou Brock is the single most overrated player in the history of baseball.
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I disagree Ace...I think Ozzie Smith is the most overrated player in baseball history.
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I'd say I agree they're the top two, and the most overrated is whichever one the baseball world thinks is better.
HOF ballot - vegascub - 12-08-2008
So tomorrow is the big day for Santo. If he doesn't get in now, after the modifications to the Veteran's Committee, I don't think he ever gets in. So let's hope for a happy day tomorrow!
I kinda have a good feeling about it.
HOF ballot - ruby23 - 12-08-2008
We'll know at noon central today.
HOF ballot - Rappster - 12-08-2008
<!--quoteo(post=915:date=Dec 2 2008, 06:57 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Dec 2 2008, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=912:date=Dec 2 2008, 07:53 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Dec 2 2008, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=867:date=Dec 2 2008, 04:58 PM:name=wcplummer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (wcplummer @ Dec 2 2008, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Not sure why I even care but I looked up Tim Raines compared to a couple of others. IMO Raines is better than DM and at least as good as Brock.
Raines
.810 career ops
.728 league avg. ops
2605 hits
1500 runs
980 rbi
808 sb
146 cs
Lou Brock
.753 career ops
.720 league avg ops
3023 hits
1610 runs
900 rbi
938 sb
307 cs
Mattingly
.829 ops
.729 league avg.
2153 hits
1007 runs
1009 rbi
14 sb
9 cs<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
before mattingly got hurt, he was infinitely better than raines. not even iin the same ballpark. raines isn't even in the same ballpark as brock either, though i do think brock was a tad overrated. way better than raines though. raines had longevity and a handful of decent years.
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Lou Brock is the single most overrated player in the history of baseball.
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You've been dumb a long time.
I watched the man play.