05-19-2010, 09:47 AM
<!--quoteo(post=96943:date=May 19 2010, 08:22 AM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ May 19 2010, 08:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=96937:date=May 19 2010, 07:47 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ May 19 2010, 07:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Holy fucking shit, I can't believe what I am reading here. I didn't click on this link because I assumed I knew what everyone was going to say, but I finally get around to it this morning and am completely stunned by what I'm reading. It is utterly inconceivable to me that you guys can watch that play, and conclude the MANAGER is the one at fault. Ramirez fucking DOGGED it completely. The fact that the runs might have scored anyway is entirely beside the point. Not only did he dog it, but he was a complete fuckstick when asked about it. I don't care how fucking good a guy is, you DON'T disrespect the manger. And I don't care how fucking good a guy is, the manager HAS to take him out after a play like that. Otherwise he has no credibility.
Ramirez either didn't care, or was too hurt to play. Either way, he had to come out.
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I think they are both dicks. Ramirez probably the bigger dick. However, the way Gonzalez handled things in the press was beyond unnecessary. What did he accomplish by calling out his star player in the media? Pulling him was fine. Hurt or not, Ramirez shouldn't have been out there. Do things like a man, in private, and then you avoid embarrassment and looking petty. Ramirez's comments were idiotic, and I'm not defending them, but it never should have got to that point in the first place.
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If Gonzalez wanted to shame Ramirez into giving an actual effort next time, then I see no problem with him calling him out.
I'd also add that we haven't the foggiest idea if Gonzalez tried this in private and Ramirez told him to bite his wiener. And if private ridicule doesn't work, then public is the next step.
Ramirez either didn't care, or was too hurt to play. Either way, he had to come out.
For the love of Christ, if Soriano had pulled this shit, you guys would be asking for him to be released. You'd all be blowing Lou for having the balls to call him on it.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think they are both dicks. Ramirez probably the bigger dick. However, the way Gonzalez handled things in the press was beyond unnecessary. What did he accomplish by calling out his star player in the media? Pulling him was fine. Hurt or not, Ramirez shouldn't have been out there. Do things like a man, in private, and then you avoid embarrassment and looking petty. Ramirez's comments were idiotic, and I'm not defending them, but it never should have got to that point in the first place.
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If Gonzalez wanted to shame Ramirez into giving an actual effort next time, then I see no problem with him calling him out.
I'd also add that we haven't the foggiest idea if Gonzalez tried this in private and Ramirez told him to bite his wiener. And if private ridicule doesn't work, then public is the next step.
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